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 Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: Experienced with Idrome 5 PS |
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Hi,
I have extremely severe hyperhydrosis, just like some of the stories I've red here.
I got the Idromed 5 PS, May 10, 2013.
So today was my second session, first session was yesterday for 15mins. Today I did 30 mins.
Just like my previous experience with Drionic, the first few days makes me my hands and feet sweat more. I'm also noticing itching. Also when you using the machine and my palm is in the water, if I try to lift it a bit (just barely touching the water) thats where I really feel the current, but if my hands are just flat on the electrodes I don't really feel much, so should my hands/feet be touching the electrodes? I mean there is the grid in between.
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks about the time, it is okay to do 30mins even if the timer is only on for 15mins right? What I do is after 15mins of treatment to both feet and hands at the same time, i turn the unit off and turn it back on again to get another 15 mins. |
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Yes, this is the way you can do 30 min.
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Thanks for the quick reply, but the only way to do 30 mins is to turn off and turn on the machine right? also how to disinfect the case and electrodes? and the itching sensation is that normal I guess? or does it mean the machine is working?
The max for hand is 15ma but what happens if i push for 20ma, is that more effective? |
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Higher currents lead to a higher success.
Itching is also normal for iontophoresis.
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought 15 mA was max for hands? So I can go up to 20 if i want? |
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Adeel,
Maybe their recommendation is 15 mA, but really I think we can set it up to 25 mA, is this right support?
also whats the best way to disinfect the electrodes and casing?
My hands are sweating heavily now after 3rd session. Is this also normal?
When I was on drionic, after the first few session I was sweating heavily just like now. So for me it seems like its working but too early to tell.
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| jsmanrique wrote: | adeel, maybe thats their recommendation is 15 mA, but really I think we can set it up to 25 mA, is this right support?
also whats the best way to disinfect the electrodes and casing?
My hands are sweating heavily now after 3rd session. Is this also normal?
When I was on drionic, after the first few session I was sweating heavily just like now. So for me it seems like its working but too early to tell.
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I'm not too sure it's a good idea to exceed 15mA on hands because you might get burns / blisters, etc.
Sweating more than normal in the initial stages of iontophoresis is a good sign.
For disinfecting the aluminum plates you need to use a alcohol free disinfectant. I use the stainless steel ones and clean with a stainless steel cleaner. |
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adeel, I have red somewhere here to use alcohol to remove patina..so i've used that, now does patina actually reduces the effectiveness of the device?
for my hands i can take 20 mA, my Hydrosis I would say is extreme. Like I can make my hands sweat, all I do to make that happy is "think that i'm falling in a high building" and it would sweat like crazy, and it would literally drip. I showed this to my coworker and he couldn't believe it.
I know the manual say 15min/day but im gonna try an hour/day 30mins feet and 30 mins hands. - support, I wanna know your opinion on this.
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| jsmanrique wrote: | adeel, I have red somewhere here to use alcohol to remove patina..so i've used that, now does patina actually reduces the effectiveness of the device?
for my hands i can take 20 mA, my Hydrosis I would say is extreme. Like I can make my hands sweat, all I do to make that happy is "think that i'm falling in a high building" and it would sweat like crazy, and it would literally drip. I showed this to my coworker and he couldn't believe it.
I know the manual say 15min/day but im gonna try an hour/day 30mins feet and 30 mins hands. - support, I wanna know your opinion on this.
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I don't think it will reduce effectiveness, it might make it harder for the device to go up to higher settings though. I have that problem sometimes. Usually when I have that problem I just clean the electrodes again and the machine runs fine.
I think 30 minutes hands / 30 minutes feet would be a good idea, I've just started that now and it's going really smooth. |
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Thank you @ support!!
That link was helpful.
Will keep you guys posted of the outcome, so far so good.. just like my experience with drionic but
better. |
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Updates :
Today is day 6 - I started May 10, 2013.
So far my hands have been dry today..yesterday I went to the golf driving range and my glove was super wet.
I have been doing 30min hand, 30 mins feet. I was able to go with 25ma for hands and feet no problem, I like the itchyness sensation. I personally think that the device Idrome is working well for me.
I will continue doing the treatment and hopefully I can be completely dry!!
Will post updates again. |
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| Hopefully it works for you. I will be doing day 3 tonight with the hidrex machine. The first night I did 15 minutes and 20ma and the second night I did 15 minutes at 22ma. No signs of relief yet, but I cant wait to be able to wear a golf glove longer than 3 holes!!! |
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I know the feeling Clar!
Today is day 7 but really session is only day 6 since I do it after work but anyway...
Yesterday I did.. 30 mins hands/45mins feet...since im watching the tv series 24 hours...
I might as well leave it there for that long.. Support, if I'm correct, the longer the better? more effective?
Today as I'm typing this my hands are pretty dry... so we'll see how it goes for the rest of the day..
One tip, when i first used the machine I did hands and feet at the same time.. you know to save time but what I notice is when I do that.. i dont really feel the current/tingling sensation. So I recommend doing it seperate. 15mins hands 15 mins feet .. this way I can really feel the current...
I'm also doing both at 25mA hands and feet  just because I can stand it.
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Day 7: Hands sweats comes and goes but mostly dry....
Tonight I am disappointed since my Idromed device have stopped working.. Normally as soon as I press the On botton, it would do the testing and say "place hand feet, and armpit sponge" as soon as you do place hands/feet it will start the timer. Well today, I'm stuck to that screen and the timer doesn't start. Support please help!! I have turned the unit on and off and have changed the water level, used a warmer water..looks like the current is not flowing. WHY??!? I am disappointed today since I'm gonna miss a treatment. |
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Hi, I haVe tried evertyhing as per that link... I believe its the cable thats faulty since everything else work fine if i turned the knob it would changed mA.
Please advice what to do next. |
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Cable issues are one in a million. We designed the cables to last 50 !!!! years of use.. however, you have connected the device directly into the plates (shortened it) and then it worked, and all other tips failed. if this is correct please reply, if you have done this as described, you surely know wich cable is defect, so in this case reply wich cable (black / red ) you need and we will send it for free immediately.
If this is not the case, you will only prolong time for exchange and warrantee, we`ll see to it that you have the device asap working in your hands.
If you can send us a video (youtube, etc.) where you've done all that is mentioned in our "immediate self help and diy routines- then we can surely get back with the fastest solution we can provide .. .if we send cables, I do not think this will solve anything, maybe I am wrong, but you are only the the 2nd person in 30tsd that I have heard from with this problem.
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IF it is the cable, then something serious must have happened (someone stood on the cable and pulled it hard .. something like that, or there is a horrible fault from our side - then we are very sorry - because we check everything (more than just double-check) based on the strict german medical regulations.
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okay Thanks, I have connected it with the plates only NO CABLE as per instruction.
The timer continues which means that there is a current flow.
Now, how do I know which cable isn't working?
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Seems to be indeed the cable ... connect one plate directly, then the other with the cable, if it works the cable is ok, if not, it is defect...
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I did try that ... its harder to connect the other cable.. Im at work right now so I will tell you which one when I get home. I believe its the middle cable coz the machine is in the way and so as the plate when trying to put the cable in.
I need this cable soon guys, Right now my hands have been dry even thou I miss some of treatment I believe the last treatment I did was May 17, so thats day 8. I can definelty say that its working for me! |
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We'll send you a new pair , seems to be hard to solve this that way...
I hope that we have some in our USA- stock, because it would be faster,or else we'll procure it from the nearest stock available....
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Thank you, I will notify you guys when I get the cables.
Cant wait to resume treatment!! |
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Support,
Please I need update on my cables, After 8 days of using the machine my hands have been dry. I am waiting for my cables so I can start using the machine again..so far my hands have been dry but my hand skin is peeling off..
is this normal? I can feel that my hands will start sweating soon again. but I'm really surprise with the result after using it for 8 days. Please follow up on the cables and if you can provide me a tracking number that would be great
Thanks.
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Thank you, I've received the new plates and electrodes..Now because its for Hidrex, it should also work for my idromed.. does it matter which cables i plug in positive or negative? i have the black and red.. which one should go where in the idromed machine?
By the way, updates on myself.. I have been sweat free for the last 10 days or so..play golf yesterday, I forgot my gloves in the car but that wasn't a problem coz my hands didn't sweat. Its a good feeling to have the feeling of dryness.
Thanks again and will update you guys soon.. I will start treatment later again, sometimes I feel that the sweat is almost starting to come back. |
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| Hey js you've been doing 25 mA on hands and 25 mA on feet separately? Do your feet still sweat? I might have to increase the power now, I've been doing 30 minutes 15 mA hands and 30 minutes 25 mA feet. It's helped a bit, but they both still sweat. |
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Hey Adeel,
yeah been doing 25 mA on hands and feet separtely, I find that if you put baking soda it helps make sure it dissolves in water, Im gonna restart my treatment now using the hydrex plates and cables..
What you can also do is instead of increasing the mA you can increase the time..say instead of 30 mins do 45 mins if you have the time..today is sunday i have all the time so I'm gonna do 45 mins each.. best of luck but yeah hands have been dried also a little bit of skin peeling in my hands and support says it could be due to higher mA. |
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| Wow 10 days dry with no treatment is awesome progress! Right now Im doing the treatment every other day for 21 days and my hands are totally dry. I have worn the same golf club for 18 holes the last few times I have been out. It is an amazing feeling! |
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@ clar1353, sounds good! Would you please give us a complete success post in our iontophoresis success section, this would be very helpful for other users too ... many thanks in advance....
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| yes clar but my treatment was also extreme.. hehe..no pain no gain..anyway yesterday I did first treatment again after awhile..i only did 15 mins on hands around 8 mA.. hand did sweat a little after that here and there..then did 45 mins on feet, at 18 mA (even though i set this at 25 mA max) sometimes for my feet is having a hard time detecting the current. but yeah..i'll probably wont do treatments today and back at it tomorrow. |
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Hey js,
do you feel an 'electric fence' effect after each treatment on 25 mA hands? And at the start of your treatments, do you feel alot of pressure?
I just started doing 25 mA on hands too and now I'm experiencing this stuff pretty strong. It doesn't hurt or anything, just at the start and end of treatments I feel this effect/pressure. |
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Dear adeel what do you mean with pressure?
A (slight) electrice fence effect at the end of the treatment, is a sign of an abnormally low body resistance and can be solved through these routines
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Adeel,
i do feel electric fence when removing my hands after treatments.. If 25 mA is too strong for you then lower it down a abit and just add more time..so instead of doing 15mins at 25mA do 30 mins at 15mA.. actually the first 10 days when I got the device it was intense use of the machine..i would do 30 mins @ 25mA or sometimes even 45mins to 1 hour.. but it was well worth it after the 10 days.. so heres what happened to me:
10 days used the machine, then about 10 days off (coz i had to wait for my cables to be replaced)
hands didn't really sweat during the 10 days off, if it did it was very minor sweat, I actually had to use lotions! before when I use lotion my hand would instantly sweat. The only draw back with using the machine they way I did was my hand skin was peeling off.. but I dont really mind it.
Now that I have the cable replacement.. yesterday was my second treatment after the 10 days off..i did 30 mins @ 15mA on my hands and feet I do max. 45mins @ 25mA. after the 10 days off, I can actually feel the sweat was coming back, so thats why I'm doing the treatement I again, I guess at this point I'm in the maintenance phase, I'm really suprise all it took me was 10 days, but I did use drionic before and all the other stuff that other people have used such as drysol, botox, you name it.. Anyway, today I'm thinking of doing 30mins @ 10mA hands and 45mins @ 25 feet. The feet I dont have a problem with current probably because of thicker skin.
Adeel, try and play around with what works best for you! The only thing yesterday after the treatment my hands were itchy as hell.. I mean it did feel good but it was just super itchy.. but when I was young I remember that when I have wounds and it was about to heal it was super itchy..so they way I see it, itchy is a good thing
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I wouldn't say it's too strong for me, I think I can handle doing treatments at 25 mA, it's just the beginning 'pressure' (force from current onto hands, I feel it extend around my forearm area too) and electric fence effect that annoy me. During treatment I feel no pain or discomfort.
For the electric fence effect I use to feel it with 15 mA and now I do not, so hopefully the effect will lessen as I continue treatments on 25 mA. The body resistance increases naturally as the hands get drier I read somewhere.
I already do a total of 1 hour treatments everyday so I don't really want to extend the time any further than that. I'm going to do Day 2 today of 25 mA on hands. Will keep updating. Thanks for the help!
Edit: Day 2 completed. Honestly it's not that bad, if it'll get me better results I'm going to stay on 25 mA from now on. I can feel the dryness in my finger tips now just touching them, it feels different. I think this new setting is going to work |
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| SEEms like my sweat is coming back again..so i gotta start using the machine again.. |
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Same here, I tried switching to every other day but it started sweating again.
What kind of water level do you use?
I read on the forums someone using 500 mL, is that 500 ml in both tubs, or each tub?
Also, is it the same level of water you use to treat feet?
Support, could you answer, thanks. |
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