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 Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: blisters from iontophoresis treatments |
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I got blisters while having treatment, anyone had them?
My right hand is on positive pole and left negative. On 15 ma. Negative seems to be more painful, I thought positive is the one with more intensity? And my left hand on the negative side has 2 small blisters. Is this normal? Does this mean I'm overdoing it? I did it twice, means 30 minutes.
And is it a must that I increase the ma gradually? I would just set it up to 15 ma, then place my other hand into the tray. |
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it is not a must to increase the iontophoresis current, but it is recommended to do so till you have a tingling feel (or if you got skin irritations, this is a sign of doing too much - or - mostly too strong iontophoreiss treatments) maybe you can cover the blisters with nivea
when you are in the initial phase remember that the skin needs time to get used to the current
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Is it okay that I do it for 30 minutes? Or it's better to stick to 15 minutes first?
I guess there is only 1 way to put it, but no harm asking I guess. I put water in the tray, put in the aluminium plates, then the distance grids. That is the correct way right? This is because my hands will still be in contact with the aluminium plates, as the distance grids are basically grids, there are holes in between. As the manual said, contact with the aluminium plates may result in burns. |
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15 min like stated in the manual whilst the first initial time phase
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It's no good, i develop more new blisters. Nivea didn't really help. It hurts. I asked was what i did correct in terms of placing the parts. Should my palms be placed on the aluminium plate (separated by distance grids), or away from the aluminium plate?
I concur with one of the forumer, the negative pole feels stronger.
The set I have looks different from https://www.iontodevice.com/. There isn't an underlying aluminium plate in the picture, rather they are clipped to the trays. eliminating direct contact with the skin. The one I have is with 2 big aluminium plates to be placed into the trays. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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sure, you lay in the plate, then the grids
the picture shows 2 paltes but the grids aren good to see, but they are seperate
have you done the treatments without the grid?
how high is the water?
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Well Markus, thanks for the replies, I'm really glad I bought Idromed, with all these supports!
I did the treatment with the grids, as the manual says, there is danger of burns without the grids. This is correct right?
The water is about 600 - 700 ml.
Does it make a difference in terms of effectiveness, that there are certain parts of my hands are not directly on top of the plates? I mean, basically the plates are smaller than the trays and the grids, therefore there are spaces on the trays that will not be touching the plates. I shifted my blistered parts there, and it doesn't hurt there. But I'm worried on the reduced effectiveness on areas not touching on the plates.
I can take 15 ma on the positive pole (my right palm), non problem. The fact that my blisters hurt on the negative pole (left palm), causes me to turn down the ma. Again, my concern is on the effectiveness caused of the lower ma on the overall treatment.
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dont worry about the sizes of the electrodes, they are big enough
the - pole has the stronger side effects the + the stronger effect in reducing the sweat
so lower the mA to the point it doesnt hurt, for the blisters you can treat them after the treatments and through the day with a good urea cream like www.current-care.info keep on doing at lower mA till the blisters disappear, remember: we have time! i think when you have been a sweat sufferer for years, it is bearable to wait another 3 weeks till you are sweat free.
seems you have turned to high in a too short time, so your skin didnt get used to the current. This is not common but sometimes it occures.
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What I did was I applied Nivea cream, maintain 15ma, but I place my blistered parts outside of the plates. Means half of my palm on the plate and half isn't. It's still submerged in water, just that not on top of the plates. It doesn't hurt that way. (When I say on top of the plates, of course separated by the grids)
The next round will be my 5th, after that I will reverse the polarity on my left palm to be on positive pole. As you said, positive is gentler on the skin, good time to recuperate over the next 5 days!
Yeah, I guess you're right, I've been sweating all my life, what is a few more weeks. Just that I'm rather impatient, hoping to get sweat-free soonest possible.  |
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Something seems funny now, the therapy won't start for my feet. It was okay the day before for my feet. When I place in my hands it's starts. But when I place my feet in, it wouldn't start. I tried touching the plates directly too, but it won't start.
I didn't apply any lotion nor cream, except for certain parts where I applied the Nivea cream.
Water level is 1.2 liter. |
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Okay, this is odd.
With the same amount of water,
I place both my feet, one in each tray. The treatment didn't work.
I remove my feet, and place my hands, it works.
I place both one hand in a tray, and one foot on another, it didn't work.
I tried lowering the water to 600 ml, use warm water, and shorten it. They didn't work either. What's left now is to clean the plates. But it baffled me though, because I've used for for just 5 times, it couldn't be that patina and calcium carbonate accumulated so much. Any idea? Or my feet just couldn't complete the current flow? It worked on my feet before btw.
How should I clean them, wipe with alcohol and soak in vinegar? It must be both? Can't i just wipe with alcohol alone? Soaking takes time, probably can only do it over the weekend. |
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then stick in the feet and to start the treatment place in additional the hands (and remove them as soon as the therapy starts)
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Hey Markus, that works! Thanks man!
But what exactly causes it to not work using feet alone?
Another question, I think I see some dryness more on my right hand, which is on the positive pole. It's not 100%, but I think it improved. My question is, can I maintain it on the positive pole everytime? The negative pole stings, causes blisters (my right is currently on negative, because of polarity change after 5 treatments).
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you can keep it till you got 100% success normally when you are right hander it is better to keep the right dry first
seems that your skin is too thick at the feet that the device recognizes the start of the treatment. maybe a little patina does it that it didnt worked after several treatments
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Hi Markus,
First of all, a Merry Christmas to you!
It's been 3 weeks since my treatment. I have to say it improved, but not totally dry, especially on my fingers. One part of my palms are dry though, the area between the thumb and the middle finger, why I'm not sure. Could it be because they are grooved up, therefore it is most likely to be the area between water and air (and best results are gained from those areas)?
So far I'm placing my palms on the positive tray, they do not hurt, and no blisters problem. Am I doing this correctly, or must I somehow use the negative as well?
I would like to increase my treatment time, however, 15 mins is the default timer. Can I continue after the timer elapsed (will there still be current), or must I turn off and on the machine again?
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i think increasing the time would be a good idea, or increasing the mA is you can
parial success means only that this areas need less current / time to get dry than others...
you have to switch the device on and off again to restart
merry christmas to you too
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| I have been doing 15mA for 30 mins on both hands on positive pole for about 10 days now. Can the mA still be increased, as you mentioned max for hands is 15mA. To be honest, it doesn't feel much on my hands (at least on positive pole, but the negative pole stings hard). |
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yes you can increase if you are able to do that...the 15 mA are for the treatment start, so if you dont feel that much and have not a 100% success you can increase
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Hi Markus,
It's been a while. I never had 100% success, although i must say it improved.
I've been doing 15mA for 15 minutes initially. And then i upped the treatment time to 30 minutes. But somehow i feel my finger hurts, it's not that rashes/dry type of pain, it's more like a pain to the bone, especially on my left hand's little finger. That causes me to skip treatments at times.
Anyway, now i'm doing 20mA for 15 mins, positive pole on my hands(both hands simultaneously) for the past 5 days already. The treatment doesn't really hurt my skin as in cracked skin and stuff as before, but my concern is more towards the pain and stiffness feel on my fingers.
I'm actually at a loss, not sure how to continue from here on. Any idea?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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go down with the current a bit till it doesnt hurt
when you got too dry skin you are in a overtherapy
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Hi Markus,
You missed my point it seems. The therapy doesn't hurt on the positive pole at 20mA. My skin doesn't really crack now. The issue seems to be the stiffness, especially on my little finger. It feels kind of like pain on the bone. I don't see this being reported as an issue elsewhere, so i guess i'm the only one having such an issue. |
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iontophoresis is used when having arthrosis e.g. for this you feel like tere is something going on, but now something you have to worry
i have this myself in my right knee - since years, , my right knee is weak through sports - and for me it has improved very much, so i think the effect is a positive one...
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