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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:09 am    Post subject: My Journey - 2019 Reply with quote

Happy New Year Everyone! Wishing you blessings and success in everything you do.

I decided to start this mini-blog of my journey as it is something I can do whilst i treat my feet and also a way to log my progress! (Admin, if not ok, please feel free to let me know and remove it)

I bought the PSP1000 machine in late 2015 but I have not used it till today! (2nd Jan 2019). Why? Well, for one laziness and a small fear of putting currents through me and taking all the time to do it daily. Also, have been busy with my business and family stuff. I decided that 2019 would be the year I start. Honestly, what pushed me to start now was the sad news that I have passed this curse on to my 2 beautiful girls (aged 7 and aged 1). They both have Hyperhidrosis in hands, feet and maybe underarms. Underarms can be taken care of with Miradry but that procedure is only possible when they turn 18. So for hands and feet, ionto is the only non invasive (say no to ETS) option for now and I hope to start the elder one when she turns 9 or 10 (so she can sit still for 15mins!). I am hoping that more R&D will be poured into this disease by the big pharmas and in our children and grandchildren's time we hope we wil be able tol find a permanent and safe cure for all.

*Important* - my Hyperhidrosis is triggered by temperature (when the room is hot etc) but the heavier sweating actually comes when I'm anxious or rushing or stressed at work. (e.g. rushing to catch a flight, going to a meeting where i know I have to shake someone hand especially if it's the first time, playing video games in a battle, presenting for the first time to an unknown audience etc)


Treatment 2nd Jan 2019 - Day 1: --> tap water from kitchen

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 25, 15mins
I didn't feel anything at 20 so I moved it to 25. Felt slight tingling so I decided to leave it there since it's my first day. I feel the current more in my left hand than my right, oddly. After 10mins, I rested my wrist on the blue boxes that I bought from ionto ([perfect design naturally). Only issue my hands also tire after 10 plus minutes so I am not sure if I felt tingling more or the tiredness more! Again, since it was Day 1, I took it easy.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 30, 15mins
I used the manual recommended settings as feet should be able to withstand more than hands, so voltage 30 should be a good start. Again, I feel the current more in the left foot than right but both feet tingle. Not sure if I should go higher...I probably could notch it up a few volts but again since it was Day 1...

I will continue to update this post as much as I can.

Cheers,
Z

Treatment 3rd Jan 2019 - Day 2: red polarity --> left hand + feet. black polarity --> right hand + feet

I continue to use my kitchen tap water. I understand that getting the amount of water right is critical to the success of the process. So today, I used a standard ikea mug as a measurement of water. I find that 1.5 to 2 cups for each tray is sufficient to soak the towels completely plus allow for a thin level of water spillover at the sides of the towel. I also top up the water in the trays for my feet by around 1/2 a cup to for feet treatment, so the tray is a bit more wet for the feet session.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 27, 15mins

I decided to up the voltage to 27v. Today I felt a bit less tingly but a bit more prickly. A tad more uncomfortable but in no way was it painful. The prickly feeling also came and went so I pushed on to finish the 15mins. I am not sure but I get the impression that I am suppose to feel the tingling continuously i.e. is it obvious the tingling feel or pulsating feeling?? Anyway, I didn't feel it as much or consistently so perhaps I need the voltage to go higher. I will try 30v next session for my hands. The other thing I did was to allow my forearms to rest on the edge of the tray. I don't want to confuse arm numbness with the tingling feeling of the session! Smile

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 32, 15 mins.

To be consistent, I upped the voltage by similar increments to 32v. I do feel tingly but again, it is mild and comes and goes. Again, perhaps I will need to up my voltage to 35v next round.

I hope to do another session tonight. I will be busy from next week where can I only do 1 session per week day so I hope I can be more aggressive with my treatment this week. 2 sessions per day!

Did a night session as promised (1.5 cups of water per tray, top up a bit more for feet later)

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 30, 15mins

At 30v, I could be feel the tingling more meaningful and consistently, almost pulsing like even. (not sure if I am imagining this). Wasn't painful or anything but after 10mins, you do get a sense of tiredness in the hand but I pressed on. I think 15-20mins per session is about right. I don't know if 30v is the ideal setting for me but for now, it "feels" about right. May keep it here for a few more sessions and review again. I am guessing I could push it a few more volts higher but I suspect I am not far from my limit? I want to avoid going too aggressive and hurting myself which will take a few days off my treatment if I need to heal etc.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 35, 15 mins.

At 35v, again felt stronger tingling but the feeling wasn't as "bold" as my hands. I suspect I can still go higher to 37-40v for my feet to achieve the same sensation. I do get intermittent prickling feeling on my left foot but it's not painful or uncomfortable.


Treatment 4th Jan 2019 - Day 3: --> morning.

I realised 1 cup of water for each tray is sufficient as any more, I get much more spillover at the sides of the towel. Actually, I don't really know what the precise measurement should be but my rule of thumb is pretty soaked towels and some spillover water. Definitely, no "floating" of the towel in the tray, that would be too much water I assume.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 30, 15mins

I continued on 30v, felt prickly to start but it went away after a while replaced with more tingling sensation. Prickly feels more annoying naturally but I pushed on, watching YT clip helps to keep your mind of the treatment. To be clear, no pain felt. Am tempted to keep it here at 30v for now.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 38, 15 mins.

I bumped the voltage to 38, feels about the same, a tad more prickly mixed with tingling. I think I can move it up to 40v on my next treatment. Ok, on the last 2 mins of the treatment, the prickly feeling came back and intensified a little...not painful but a bit more uncomfortable then when I started. Strange. Lucky only in the last 2mins. Perhaps 38v is enough?

Note: After my first 3 treatments, I do feel my hands appear dry and "tight" in feeling but no pain or blisters or rips. I plan to use the lotion I bought from ionto to moisturize my hands. I would like to report "success" so early with that observation but I need to be realistic and my easy test also failed (I just played a game on PS4 where my hands sweats like mad when I'm in a 'battle'). My first target goal is mid month, that would be about 2 weeks plus of treatment. I'm off to HK for a conference around then and hopefully I can see success by the conference where I need to shake quite a number of hands! I will continue to push on regardless of the outcome!

Treatment 5th Jan 2019 - Day 4:

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 30, 15mins

Maintain my usual program this morning. I get a bit more itchiness/prickly today but nothing uncomfortable. I also applied the lotion post treatment for my hands.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I decided to up my voltage to 40v and see if I get the same feeling as yesterday towards the last 2/3 minutes. So far as I type this, not much difference in feeling from yesterday so it seems 40v is ok for now. I do feel more pulsating effect on my left foot which has the positive/red polarity. Will switch polarities after day 7. 1 week intervals, easier to keep track.


Treatment 6th Jan 2019 - Day 5:

1. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I started with my feet first because I'm not sure if I should rest my hands for today. As I posted in my reply to admin below, I did notice 2 spots of redness in my right hand which was a bit itchy but not painful. I'm tempted to continue with my treatment however, perhaps I lower the voltage for my hand.

I feel stronger tingling today for my feet especially at the arches of my left foot (red polarity) with slightly more intensified feeling in the last 3 mins for my again my left foot. Wasn't painful so I press on to finish. Reading the reply from admin, I will work on the soles first and later on the higher sections of my feet by topping up the water level of the trays.

**edit: I went ahead to treat my hands. Lowered voltage to 28v.

No pain just tingling throughout. After the treatment, feels a tad raw but not painful or uncomfortable but i plan to put the lotion on.


Treatment 7th Jan 2019 - Day 6:

On advice from admin, I added more water to the trays. I poured 2.5 cups into each tray. Hopefully this would be the right level for me and I will not get red spots on my hands.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 28, 15mins

I felt the tingling sensation more evenly today. Don't know if it's because I have more even level of water covering the plates than before or placebo effect. The tingling feeling was more consistent across the 15mins, with no spiking of intensity. I think 28v or even lower works for me for now, at least in terms of having a consistent tingling feeling. Need to monitor my hands for redness/itchiness tomorrow but I will be applying the ionto lotion shortly.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

Again, similar feeling of tingling across both feet. More uniformed.

I am hoping I can see some results by next Tuesday 15th before I go to HK. (if I don't skip any sessions, I would have completed 14 days of consecutive treatments by then. Wish me luck!


Treatment 8th Jan 2019 - Day 7:

Last day of treatment before I change polarities. I woke up with my hands feeling fine, no more red spots or itchiness. I guess the additional water helped to even out the currents? On top of that, I applied the ionto lotion post treatment.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 28, 15mins

Felt the usual tingling but the intensity increase in the last 3mins or so with more prickly feeling. Felt less even pulsating as compared to yesterday oddly. After the treatment, I feel a slight itch on both hands. I plan to apply the ionto lotion again, which I found helpful yesterday post treatment. If tom my hands are fine, I will not alter this regime. If I get red spots again, I will lower voltage a bit on my next treatment.

Finally, I feel the water level 2 1/4 to 2.5 cups appears more right so I will stick to this.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

Again, similar feeling of tingling across both feet. More uniformed.


Treatment 9th Jan 2019 - Day 8:

I changed polarities today. Left hand and feet is black whilst the right in red. Will do this for the next 7 days. This morning I woke up and checked my hands, they were fine, no red spots or itchiness.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 28, 15mins

Similar to yesterday's experience. Felt the usual tingling but the intensity increase in the last 3 mins or so with more prickly feeling. I did notice small patches of red spots at the base of fingers 3 and 4, slight itch also after the treatment ended. More pronounced on my right hand (red polarity) than left hand. I will apply the lotion later and monitor tom. Again, if the redness remains, could imply that 28v is still too high for me?

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

Again, similar feeling of tingling across both feet, as yesterday. Felt stronger on my right foot with the red polarity.


Treatment 10th Jan 2019 - Day 9:

Again, my hands were fine this am after applying lotion post treatment last night. Having said that I told myself I should lower voltage to try (and I did). I usually pour 2 and 1/4 cups of water but today I may poured a bit more than 2.5 cups, a bit more. (too lazy to pour the slight excess away)

I am starting to notice my hands not sweating as much in the day time. I don't know if it's placebo. When I am anxious, it still gets a bit wet but seems not as much as before? Will continue to monitor. Not much on my feet. Still feels about the same.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

I lowered voltage to 26v. First 2 mins, I felt the tingling more intense but gradually it went away. At the end of the treatment, I am still getting the smallish red spots on my hands (same areas) which are a tad itchy but no pain. I am wary of lowering voltage further as I'm impatient to see some results! Let's see.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

Nothing much to add...tingling as per yesterday on both feet.


Treatment 11th Jan 2019 - Day 10:

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

My red 'ring' from yesterday subsided over the course of the day although my left hand still itched. I went ahead with the treatment. Tingling with occasionally intensity felt. Will apply lotion shortly as i feel a bit itchy post treatment.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

Nothing much to add...tingling as per yesterday on both feet.


Treatment 12th Jan 2019 - Day 11:

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

I didn't get a red ring or red patches today after treatment fortunately. But hands were a tad itchy. I applied some lotion and got about my day. I'm beginning to see dry hands but weekends usually my hands are not as wet due to being in relaxed mode and not rushing etc.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I continued with my usual treatment for feet.


Treatment 13th Jan 2019 - Day 12:

My red rings did not appear again but hands remain a little itchy at the base of the middle and fourth finger (same spot for my left hand).

I played my usual Sunday tennis and unfortunately my hands still sweat during the game but i felt it was maybe 30-40% less wet than before. Not sure if placebo. Although as mentioned above, I find my hands drier over the weekend, it still sweats when my anxiety is triggered although the sweat felt less than before. Will need to keep the treatment going because my goal is to make it work even when my anxiety is triggered.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

Interestingly, felt just normal tingle throughout, no periods of intensity at all this time. Odd.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I continued with my usual treatment for feet.[/i]


Treatment 14th Jan 2019 - Day 13:

No red rings or patches on my hand this am and the itch had gone away pretty much.

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

Just felt a calm tingle across my hands. No periods of intensity. Although I feel a slight itch after treatment.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I continued with my usual treatment for feet.

I do hope the ionto can help my anxiety triggered attacks, not just keep my hands dry on the weekend when I'm relaxed. I'm excited to see results soon but I don't know when that will be. Day 14/21/30? I will keep trying until 30 days as a minimum.


Treatment 15th Jan 2019 - Day 14:

1. Hands - pulse 70, voltage 26, 15mins

Just felt a calm tingle across my hands. No periods of intensity.

2. Feet - pulse 90, voltage 40, 15 mins.

I continued with my usual treatment for feet.

This would be my last treatment before my trip to HK tom night. I won't be able to continue my treatment till Saturday when I'm home. Did I achieve the goal I set myself when started? Well I think no in a sense that my hands still get wet when my anxiety is triggered but having said that, I do feel my sweat levels have reduced in general by 30-40% I would think. This is an encouraging start but I'm still going for the 90-100%! I will keep going.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Z,

thanks a lot for your post! I think this is a great idea =)

As for the different sensation in both hands and feet, this is normal. The negative pole has a bigger "side effect", this means here you'll always have a stronger feeling. And the plus pole has a bigger "effect". This is why we strongly recommend to change the polarity every couple of days. It doesn't matter if you change it every day or every 4 days, the important thing is, that you treat left and right sides an equal amount of times with the negative and the positive pole.

And as for the current setting, you can always go as high as you can tolerate, as long as you don't feel any pain. Tingling is just fine and normal. But as soon as it feels uncomfortable, or you feel pain or ithynessm, then this is a sign, that the current level is too high.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Admin,

Thanks for your post and explanation.

I forgot all about the polarity effect and the need to change it. I will bear that in mind, maybe one week each to keep things simple.

I will add to my blog but today, I felt less tingling and bit more prickly type of feeling. It wasn't painful at all so I tolerated it. Obviously tingling is more comfortable to prickly feeling.

I guess I will continue to add voltage as you suggested. The thing is I don't know how strong the tingling feeling is suppose to be.

Basically, my question on this is how obvious and consistent I need to feel the tingling sensation to know that the treatment is working as intended?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

as long as the tingling doesn't feel uncomfortable or is accompanied with pain, and as long as your skin ist still in good condition after treatment, meaning no irritation, redness, itchyness....

The only thing is, that after some time it might be that you don't feel the tingling anymore, but this doesn't mean that the machine is not working properly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Admin,

Well noted on your feedback.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Admin,

Question for the feet treatment. My sweating also appears on both the sides of my feet around 1-1.5cm higher than the sole of the feet.

Would this mean that I need to add more water for feet treatment so much so that the sides of my feet are submerged in water?

This means roughly 2-4cm water height in the blue trays!

Kindly advise.

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Z
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a good idea and worth a trial, so the best thing is to check if this will bring the wished effect

You can also follow some basic rules for iontophoresis
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply admin. Ok, let me try to work on the sole of the feet first and later, I will increase the water level to higher to see if it works for higher part of my feet.

A few questions please:

1) This morning I notice my right hand (black polarity) has 2 spots of small redness on the palm, basically at the base of fingers 4 and fingers 5. It doesn't hurt but it is a bit itchy. I applied the ionto lotion on it this morning. I notice my left hand has a bit of it too but not as itchy.

Does it imply my voltage for my hands are too strong? However, in all my treatments so far, I felt no pain or discomfort during the 15mins of treatment as per my mini-blog above. **edit: I went ahead to treat my hands but lowered the voltage to 28v.

2) Just a suggestion, perhaps you could consider creating a new video focusing on the water level principle i.e how much water to use? I know you have that separate thread that explains how much water to use but videos are usually better. This video should really zoom into the water level for hands/feet and also how the plates should look like once you pour water in them. (i started thinking also about my general water level also, my towels are properly wet but i notice the plates are not fully submerged in water, it is just wet across...is this ok?)

Kindly advise.

Many thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the current and also the pulse width (this maybe can be optimized pls visit:
https://www.iontodevice.com/hyperhidrosis/how-to-adjust-the-perfect-pulsed-setting-for-hidrex-psp1000-t748.html

Skin problems like red spots whilst or after iontophoresis tend to point to a non proper optimized iontophoresis regimen.

To the water level: As stated in the post a general "one tip fits all needs" water level is not possible , it is highly individual, so a base to start with is in the text. A video will normally let more questions open than it answers.
If yo feel something is missing in the text pls ask us back, you are welcome everytime.

For your water personal water level request: It is surly no problem to fill in a bit more water, i also sent you a p.m. in regards of this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks admin for your reply. I will also make adjustments to my regime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Admin,

Quick question, after my treatment last night (day 9), i got a more pronounced red spot (small 'ring' actually) formed on my left hand (switched to black polarity). I did apply the lotion after the treatment. My right hand is fine.

1. Does it mean my current voltage, lowered from 30v to 26v is still too high? (if I lower further, I'm afraid it will delay the positive result?) During all my treatment so far, there is no pain, just tingling and occasionally prickly (pins + needles) sensation but sometimes for 1-2 mins, the latter feels more intense, as I wrote on my mini-blog.

2. I read your replies, that I am not suppose to get redness or itchiness on my palms post treatment. However, I notice my hands on the past 2-3 days do get slight red patches (normally right hand) but they go away overnight after the lotion is applied. This latest red 'ring' I saw this morning, didn't go away however.

On the plus side, I don't know if it's placebo, but I feel my hands are not sweating as much as before. They still sweat when I'm anxious but it's less than before it seems. Smile I want to keep going until I achieve 100%!

Many thanks.

Cheers,
Z
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